Pool Patio

Options & Pricing for rochester,ny pool projects

Landscape Design and installation Project Rochester NY

Patio options & costs specific to Rochester, NY area.

On this website you’ll find all the information you need to know before you start an inground pool project. The reviews and advice are based on my formal education in Landscape Architecture along with over 25 years of experience designing and installing pool projects in the Rochester area.

This page has a review of the costs & available options for pool patios. Visit our inground pools home page for advice on designing your overall backyard to include a swimming pool.

Patios for Pools

“Studies show that when using their pool, the average homeowner spends 85% of their time on the patio and not in the actual pool.”

Choosing your material

Patio Options for pools

Basically, you have 3 options when it comes to the material you use for your pool patio. Each has advantages and disadvantages.

You can learn about patio design & spacing recommendations for the most common outdoor living features on our patio design page.

You can jump to this page To see our pictures/portfolio of pool projects in the Rochester, NY area.

Pavers

A versatile and very durable material that works well with pool projects, being that they are not slippery when wet. Pavers create an elegant subtle look to your space.

Pavers come in multiple sizes, allowing you flexibility in your design with the ability to create distinct patterns and borders.

The biggest drawback to pavers is that since they are laid by hand, they are more expensive to have installed when compared to concrete.

Pavers typically cost $17–$22 per square foot installed in the Rochester, NY area.

Paver Benefits & Disadvantages

The benefits to using pavers for your pool patio are:

  • They’re not slippery
  • More authentic look when compared to the glossiness of Stamped Concrete.
  • You can easily repair them if settling occurs.
  • Easier to add onto the patio in the future without looking like you added on.

Disadvantages to using pavers for your pool patio:

  • They can settle over time if not done correctly.
  • You can get some weeds unless you use polymeric sand.
  • Pavers are laid by hand, which can get expensive.
Paver Notes
  • large pavers look better than small pavers when doing large areas of paving….has to do with “scale”.
  • Even if using pavers, you’ll still want to have the 3′  concrete “deck” in order to bridge the over dig. It can either be “at Grade” or “below Grade”. Below Grade means it will sit below finish grade & allow you to install pavers on top.
  • Always visit the showroom to choose your paver. Ink on paper is never a true representation of color.

Concrete Patios

Concrete is the material that is most often used for pool patios. This is because concrete is affordable and versatile. The two options when using concrete are Stamped concrete and Broom finished concrete.

The overall advantages of both broomed and stamped concrete:

  • Concrete is strong and durable.
  • It costs less than pavers.

The overall Disadvantage of both broomed and stamped concrete:

  • It will crack. The masons will place control joints to cause the concrete to crack where they want it to, but sometimes it will crack where it wants to.

Stamped Concrete

Stamped concrete typically has at least two colors. The relationship of these two colors is what gives stamped concrete its antiqued look.

  1. A base color is mixed in the concrete ( hopefully not just troweled into the surface.)
  2. A second color called a release agent is broadcasted on top of the concrete just before stamping.

*NOTE: Stamped concrete can be slippery, make sure you add a skid resistant additive to the sealer such as ( Sharks Teeth) during the initial build AND when you reseal it ).

The average cost of stamped concrete around an inground swimming pool in Rochester, NY is $12–$14 per square foot.

Broomed Concrete

Broomed concrete: Regular white/grey concrete where the surface is given a light texture which makes the concrete surface safer to stand on or walk on when wet.

  • Not slippery when wet.
  • Requires somewhat less maintenance ( no sealing ) although it can be harder to clean because of the broomed surface.
  • Can be plain looking unless you design a shape and integrate/soften with plantings.

The average cost of Broomed concrete around an inground swimming pool is about $7–$9 per square foot.

Concrete Notes
  • It is critical for stamped concrete to be re-sealed every 2–3 years, otherwise it becomes dull and the color fades out.
  • *NOTE: Add an anti slip agent when resealing or it will get slippery again.
  • When choosing which color/style of stamped concrete, it’s best to see an actual installation that uses the same colors……it’s hard to tell exactly what to expect if you are only going off a small thumbnail picture in a brochure.
Inground Pool Design Rochester NY

Pavers or concrete

Which one is better to use for your swimming pool project ?

It would seem like a loaded question. We install pavers. Not concrete. You are probably thinking I will tell you to go with pavers.

That is partially true, Pavers are superior to concrete. They look better, last longer, have a more authentic feel, and create a safer, cooler surface when used around a pool environment.

But here’s the thing. Don’t compromise the overall design by cutting back on more important design elements, just to work pavers into the project.

We can still design an intriguing  beautiful, outdoor living space using broomed concrete or stamped concrete.

Your outdoor environment is most affected by it’s function, shape, balance, spacial dimensions and “perception of volume” which are core design principles.

Designing space can be similar to baking a cake. If the “core” recipe is messed up, the cake will never taste right, no matter how much frosting you put on.

 

The Design Matters

On half of my projects the homeowners opt for concrete, either stamped or broomed.

As a designer first and foremost, I prefer you go with a lower cost paving option rather than drasticly restricting space.

Even though it means I will miss out on a sizable amount of work.  Your project will come out much more satisfying for us both.

weighing options

Keep the following in mind when weighing options and cutbacks. It’s better to phase in important elements as opposed to eliminating them.

  •  Don’t cutback on the amount of fence, which is really saying “Don’t minimize the space inside the fence”. I see this done all the time. It is a terrible trade off. You are not saving enough money to justify how severely you are compromising the overall look and “feel” of your space.
  • Don’t eliminate important landscape planting beds. They soften and define space. Without enough “softscape” space quickly becomes stark and unbalanced.
  • It’s important to think about views from inside looking out. If your pool is part of a overall nicely balanced environment, it will “read” more like a water feature than a pool. When you go to sell, the pool is perceived as an asset, not a liability.
  • You can skip or postpone  some of the pool features and use the savings toward your overall backyard space. You get better bang for the buck on things that affect the overall look and “feel” of your outdoor space.

If you want to learn about the costs and available options for an inground pool project, You can visit our pool costs and options page, it covers:

  • Starting Cost for the typical ‘standard’ in ground pool package
  • Inground Pool Options including an average price per option
  • How much you can expect to pay for an inground pool in Rochester  including Patio, Fence, and upgrades.

we can help you design your space

Why are our projects always so different? Partially it’s the quality of the materials we use and the care we take in our installations, but mostly it is about creative and thoughtful design.

The right design will maximize the overall function and appeal of your entire property. It helps clarify your expectations, establish your budget and helps you to visualize and prioritize multi-phase enhancements.

Extensive time and detail is put into these plans so that your landscape will continue to add curb appeal, function & increased Home Value, Not maintenance and frustration.

It is for this reason we charge a fee for design work, which is around $200-$400 for a traditional 2D architectural plan for most front or backyard landscape Projects.

Backyards that include a Pool run about $395 Total due to the extra time involved, such as measuring and laying out grades, drainage, setbacks etc.

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Around $295 for a traditional 2D architectural plan for most backyard landscape Projects. We do offer 3D renderings for about $200 – $300 extra, but it’s more for visualization and not critical for planning and layout of the project.

$395 for a traditional 2D architectural plan which is what is used for planning and layout of the pool and surrounding spaces for your project.

Around $200 for a traditional 2D architectural plan for most Frontyard landscape Projects. We do offer 3D renderings for about $200 – $300 extra, but it’s more for visualization and not critical for planning and layout of the project.

We do Planting, Landscaping & Hardscapes installs, (other than concrete).  We will provide estimates for any of that work. We don’t accept every install, usually depends on our backlog.

Not at this time. We don’t always ‘take on’ every installation, even if we do the drawing. We’ve instead opted to keep the design fee reasonable in order to keep it “Fair”.

You choose the pool builder. They will install the pool, including backfill, rough grading and fence.

On projects where we are doing some of the installation work (like landscaping)….. we lay out fencing and concrete so it gets done according to plan.

We actually will be working for you. We manage a project with your best interests in mind. With that said, we work with whoever you choose as your pool builder.

No problem! As long as we are doing some of the other work (like Landscaping) I will layout the design for the mason to ensure it gets put in according to the plan.

Sometimes, yes. But it depends. More so in winter. Just shoot me an email. The fees will usually be a little higher because there is no installation aspect. I’m pretty familiar with plants in the East down to about zone 8. I worked in Hilton Head, SC. for 7 years.

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